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#1 2015-12-01 07:57:51

Rasmus7700
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How-to Read a Legic Prime MIM1024 Chip?

Hello Guys.

I'm trying to read out a MIM1024 card with a TWN3 Legic NFC USB reader.
I actualle get a value when reading the card - it could be:

5720D9AD

Does any one know if this is the "correct" value from that kind of card - or ? Which bytes is the actual UID from the card?

I can read somewhere that sometimes a password token is nessecary to decode the card?

Thanks smile

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#2 2015-12-01 08:03:10

iceman
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Re: How-to Read a Legic Prime MIM1024 Chip?

I wouldn't know.  Never saw a legic tag so the legic functions may work. 
BUt if you can save the samples and upload it here, we could take a look at it.

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#3 2015-12-01 08:18:14

Rasmus7700
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Re: How-to Read a Legic Prime MIM1024 Chip?

Awesome smile
Samples? Hmm - i only have the script from the TWN and then the "reading" from the COM port... What is it you wanna me to upload?

Thanks

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#4 2015-12-01 10:09:47

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Re: How-to Read a Legic Prime MIM1024 Chip?

aha, I thought you had a PM3 since your are posting in this forum...

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#5 2015-12-01 10:58:37

AntiCat
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Re: How-to Read a Legic Prime MIM1024 Chip?

https://srlabs.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/100616.EUSecWest.LegicPrime.pdf#page=49
There is also a video-recording from a talk held on 26c3

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#6 2015-12-01 11:04:20

Rasmus7700
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Re: How-to Read a Legic Prime MIM1024 Chip?

Yes OK - according to that the first byte is the UID, which should be readable with out any other problems.... It must be my "57" that's the user ID.... Correct?

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#7 2015-12-01 11:47:06

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Re: How-to Read a Legic Prime MIM1024 Chip?

no idea,  but the UID should always be readable

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#8 2015-12-01 11:52:08

AntiCat
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Re: How-to Read a Legic Prime MIM1024 Chip?

No the first 4 bytes are the UID. Byte 5 is the CRC (and also the "encryption key" but that is another story).

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#9 2015-12-01 12:10:25

Rasmus7700
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Re: How-to Read a Legic Prime MIM1024 Chip?

Okay... Thanks @AntiCat - then the reading 57 20 D9 AD must be the 4 bytes read-out... containing the UID - then the reader doesn't read more than that.... smile

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#10 2016-02-05 21:24:25

mosci
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Re: How-to Read a Legic Prime MIM1024 Chip?

Guess Rasmus wouldn't read it ... but maybe other people also want to know:
The Elatec TWN3 Lecgic reader/writer (the newer model is called TWN4 ) can do much more than just reading the UID
The 'legic-models' do have a Legic-Chipset inside, you can do almost anything with such a reader/writer an a Legic tag - but only with the Legic-Commandset .. which is only available if you sign a NDA with legic and/or sign a license-aggreement.
Elatec is a official Legic partner. 
It should also work with the Legic-configuration-software csw-2000 / csw-4000 and/or the development-kit-software DKS-4000 (I would like to have this dev-kit wink ) - so if anyone has the possibility to get a copy of the csw-4000 or dks-4000 ... let me know
TWN3 Legic USB - Datasheet
TWN3 Legic USB - Supported Transponder
They (Elatec) also sell TWN3/4 without the Legic-Chipset (for half the price) .. but the do not have the name 'Legic' within there name.
You can access them with raw 'legic-commands' through usb-serial  - but because it has a legic-chipset -> it also respect all 'legic-security-features' ... unlike the proxmark  wink

Last edited by mosci (2016-02-05 21:28:47)

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