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#1 2016-03-22 03:11:02

threezhiwang
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Registered: 2016-03-08
Posts: 10

What's the difference between Infineon M1 and NXP M1

SAK of NXP M1 can't change.
why?

Garage door system can distinguish between NXP M1 and Infineon M1.
And NXP M1 didn't work.
why,because of SAK different?

Thanks everyone.

proxmark3> hf 14a reader
 UID : 9c c3 34 84
ATQA : 00 04
 SAK : 08 [2]
TYPE : NXP MIFARE CLASSIC 1k | Plus 2k SL1
proprietary non iso14443-4 card found, RATS not supported
Answers to chinese magic backdoor commands: YES
proxmark3> hf list 14a
Recorded Activity (TraceLen = 153 bytes)

Start = Start of Start Bit, End = End of last modulation. Src = Source of Transfer
iso14443a - All times are in carrier periods (1/13.56Mhz)
iClass    - Timings are not as accurate

      Start |        End | Src | Data (! denotes parity error)                                   | CRC | Annotation         |
------------|------------|-----|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-----|--------------------|
          0 |        992 | Rdr | 52                                                              |     | WUPA
       2244 |       4612 | Tag | 04  00                                                          |     |
       7040 |       9504 | Rdr | 93  20                                                          |     | ANTICOLL
      10692 |      16580 | Tag | 9c  c3  34  84  ef                                              |     |
      18560 |      29024 | Rdr | 93  70  9c  c3  34  84  ef  37  9f                              |  ok | SELECT_UID
      30276 |      33796 | Tag | 08  b6  dd                                                      |     |
     477440 |     482208 | Rdr | e0  80  31  73                                                  |  ok | RATS
     483396 |     484036 | Tag | 04                                                              |     |
     951680 |     952672 | Rdr | 40                                                              |     | MAGIC WUPC1
     953924 |     954500 | Tag |0a!                                                              |     |
     958720 |     960032 | Rdr | 43                                                              |     | MAGIC WUPC2
     961220 |     961796 | Tag |0a!                                                              |     |
     965760 |     970528 | Rdr | 50  00  57  cd                                                  |  ok | HALT
proxmark3> hf 14a reader
 UID : 9c c3 34 84
ATQA : 00 04
 SAK : 88 [2]
TYPE : Infineon MIFARE CLASSIC 1K
proprietary non iso14443-4 card found, RATS not supported
#db# halt error. response len: 1
Answers to chinese magic backdoor commands: NO
proxmark3> hf 14a reader
 UID : 9c c3 34 84
ATQA : 00 04
 SAK : 88 [2]
TYPE : Infineon MIFARE CLASSIC 1K
proprietary non iso14443-4 card found, RATS not supported
#db# halt error. response len: 1
Answers to chinese magic backdoor commands: NO
proxmark3> hf list 14a
Recorded Activity (TraceLen = 163 bytes)

Start = Start of Start Bit, End = End of last modulation. Src = Source of Transfer
iso14443a - All times are in carrier periods (1/13.56Mhz)
iClass    - Timings are not as accurate

      Start |        End | Src | Data (! denotes parity error)                                   | CRC | Annotation         |
------------|------------|-----|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-----|--------------------|
          0 |        992 | Rdr | 52                                                              |     | WUPA
       2244 |       4612 | Tag | 04  00                                                          |     |
       7040 |       9504 | Rdr | 93  20                                                          |     | ANTICOLL
      10692 |      16580 | Tag | 9c  c3  34  84  ef                                              |     |
      18560 |      29024 | Rdr | 93  70  9c  c3  34  84  ef  37  9f                              |  ok | SELECT_UID
      30276 |      33796 | Tag | 88  be  59                                                      |     |
     491136 |     495904 | Rdr | e0  80  31  73                                                  |  ok | RATS
     497092 |     497732 | Tag | 04                                                              |     |
     964608 |     965600 | Rdr | 40                                                              |     | MAGIC WUPC1
     966852 |     967428 | Tag |0a!                                                              |     |
     971648 |     972960 | Rdr | 43                                                              |     | MAGIC WUPC2
     974148 |     974724 | Tag |0a!                                                              |     |
     978688 |     983456 | Rdr | 50  00  57  cd                                                  |  ok | HALT
     984644 |     985284 | Tag | 04                                                              |     |
proxmark3> hf 14a reader
 UID : 9c c3 34 84
ATQA : 00 04
 SAK : 08 [2]
TYPE : NXP MIFARE CLASSIC 1k | Plus 2k SL1
proprietary non iso14443-4 card found, RATS not supported
Answers to chinese magic backdoor commands: YES

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#2 2016-03-22 03:28:02

threezhiwang
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Registered: 2016-03-08
Posts: 10

Re: What's the difference between Infineon M1 and NXP M1

Now,NXP M1 also do work.
Why,garage door system update?

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#3 2016-03-22 03:36:53

threezhiwang
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Registered: 2016-03-08
Posts: 10

Re: What's the difference between Infineon M1 and NXP M1

Magic card generation 1 SAK didn't change.
And generation 2 can change.
Is that it?

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#4 2016-03-22 07:07:34

iceman
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Registered: 2013-04-25
Posts: 9,538
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Re: What's the difference between Infineon M1 and NXP M1

you can change sak on a magic gen1...

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#5 2016-03-22 08:55:17

threezhiwang
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Registered: 2016-03-08
Posts: 10

Re: What's the difference between Infineon M1 and NXP M1

iceman wrote:

you can change sak on a magic gen1...

SAK == 88 is gen1 or SAK == 08 is gen1?
In my example.

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#6 2016-03-22 09:02:03

iceman
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Registered: 2013-04-25
Posts: 9,538
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Re: What's the difference between Infineon M1 and NXP M1

I have no idea what you are trying to say.   SAK has nothing to do with magic generation 1.

have a look at  "hf mf csetuid h"  read the help,  and you can test.

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#7 2016-03-22 09:07:17

threezhiwang
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Registered: 2016-03-08
Posts: 10

Re: What's the difference between Infineon M1 and NXP M1

iceman wrote:

I have no idea what you are trying to say.   SAK has nothing to do with magic generation 1.

have a look at  "hf mf csetuid h"  read the help,  and you can test.

thanks

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#8 2016-03-22 09:11:19

threezhiwang
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Registered: 2016-03-08
Posts: 10

Re: What's the difference between Infineon M1 and NXP M1

iceman wrote:

I have no idea what you are trying to say.   SAK has nothing to do with magic generation 1.

have a look at  "hf mf csetuid h"  read the help,  and you can test.


why?

proxmark3> hf mf csetuid 01020304 0002 88
--wipe card:NO  uid:01 02 03 04
old block 0:  dc 7f 92 69 58 08 04 00 01 12 b6 92 3b 84 a7 1d
new block 0:  01 02 03 04 04 88 02 00 01 12 b6 92 3b 84 a7 1d
old UID:dc 7f 92 69
new UID:01 02 03 04
proxmark3> hf 14a reader
 UID : 01 02 03 04
ATQA : 00 02
 SAK : 08 [2]
TYPE : NXP MIFARE CLASSIC 1k | Plus 2k SL1
proprietary non iso14443-4 card found, RATS not supported
Answers to chinese magic backdoor commands: YES

Is not gen1?

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#9 2016-03-22 09:14:35

threezhiwang
Contributor
Registered: 2016-03-08
Posts: 10

Re: What's the difference between Infineon M1 and NXP M1

proxmark3> hf 14a reader
iso14443a card select failed
proxmark3> hf 14a reader
 UID : 01 02 03 04
ATQA : 00 02
 SAK : 88 [2]
TYPE : Infineon MIFARE CLASSIC 1K
proprietary non iso14443-4 card found, RATS not supported
#db# halt error. response len: 1
Answers to chinese magic backdoor commands: NO
proxmark3> hf mf csetuid 01020304 0002 08
--wipe card:NO  uid:01 02 03 04
#db# halt error. response len: 1
#db# Halt error
Couldn't get old data. Will write over the last bytes of Block 0.
new block 0:  01 02 03 04 04 08 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
#db# halt error. response len: 1
#db# Halt error
Can't set UID. error=2
proxmark3> hf 14a reader
 UID : 01 02 03 04
ATQA : 00 02
 SAK : 08 [2]
TYPE : NXP MIFARE CLASSIC 1k | Plus 2k SL1
proprietary non iso14443-4 card found, RATS not supported
#db# halt error. response len: 1
Answers to chinese magic backdoor commands: NO

gen1?

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#10 2016-03-22 09:33:31

iceman
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Posts: 9,538
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Re: What's the difference between Infineon M1 and NXP M1

Writing a new block 0 worked in yr post #8 & #9,   definitly gen1.

Question is why you use atqa 0002,  compared with post #1.

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#11 2016-03-22 09:42:39

threezhiwang
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Registered: 2016-03-08
Posts: 10

Re: What's the difference between Infineon M1 and NXP M1

iceman wrote:

Writing a new block 0 worked in yr post #8 & #9,   definitly gen1.

Question is why you use atqa 0002,  compared with post #1.

thanks very much.
I was wrong in my example.

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