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#51 2015-07-16 07:33:28

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

in that document there was an interesting passage of how the pin was calculated from FC and CN...   
you don't have the pin for those cardnumbers?


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#52 2015-07-16 19:09:18

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

No I do not have pin

iceman wrote:

in that document there was an interesting passage of how the pin was calculated from FC and CN...   
you don't have the pin for those cardnumbers?

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#53 2015-09-16 18:24:55

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

Hello,

I have a 40 bit format from HID could anyone please decipher it.

1) 10010001001011010010100100100100000000101000000     (01124 11101355531-1)
2) 111001000000100000101101011010111010010                   (01123 11101355531-1)
3) 111001000000100000101111001010111110011                   (01122 11101355531-1)



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#54 2015-09-16 18:39:32

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

Your first row seems different from the other two.  Are you sure you wrote it correct?


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#55 2015-09-16 18:46:36

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

Sorry my mistake


1) 111001000000100000101110111110111001100                   (01124 11101355531-1)
2) 111001000000100000101101011010111010010                   (01123 11101355531-1)
3) 111001000000100000101111001010111110011                   (01122 11101355531-1)




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#56 2015-09-16 21:58:20

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

Please Ignore this data.
Thanks


warriors wrote:

Sorry my mistake


1) 111001000000100000101110111110111001100                   (01124 11101355531-1)
2) 111001000000100000101101011010111010010                   (01123 11101355531-1)
3) 111001000000100000101111001010111110011                   (01122 11101355531-1)




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#57 2015-10-10 19:41:53

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

Hey there, I was trying to experiment with writing a utility, when I noticed I might be reinventing the wheel. Any chance yours still works?

0xFFFF wrote:
asper wrote:

Thank you 0xFFFF. Can you add an ID HEX example (if you can also with decoded values) ?

I have almost completed an excel tool to automatically decode a generic 11value HEX ID that can be useful in almost any situation (longer HEX IDs are filled with 0es).

Glad I could help.

If you're looking at decoding PACS data I'd suggest using the web app I developed. restricted.b1rkweb.com.1u/c1rdinfo/index.php
Replace the 1's with a's in the URL provided.
Comments, bug reports etc... are welcome.

Sample data:
SC 23
CN 123
001111111000001000000100010

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#58 2015-10-11 03:58:37

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

The utility still exists. I took it offline because of a lack of interest and feedback.

I'm happy to make it accessible again. What specifically were you expecting to get out of the utility?


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#59 2015-10-27 07:11:23

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

0xFFFF wrote:

The utility still exists. I took it offline because of a lack of interest and feedback.

I'm happy to make it accessible again. What specifically were you expecting to get out of the utility?

Hi, can u please send me an email, as I can't see ur email, and there is no pm in the fourm, I got some question. Thanks. ---------------------

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#60 2015-10-29 20:28:22

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

Ok, quick question if anyone can help me out. I have a card and when I read it i get the following hex 0000076E93555D. Per the user manual that came with the reader, the first two numbers are used by the manufacturer or something and the last two are added for a checksum. If I remove those I get 00076E9355. Also in the User manual the values are allowed to be in the range 0000000000-1FFFFFFFFF. That would make the card 37-bits. Now when I try to use 37-bit wiegand to get the card number and site code it doesn't work. However, if I convert to the 00076E9355 to binary and only use the last 26 bits I can get the card number and site code correctly using a 26-bit weigand format. Anyone know what kind of format this is? Thanks for the answers.

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#61 2015-10-29 21:13:12

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

If you enter your number in this calculator,  you can test different bitlength formats..

http://www.brivo.com/support/card-calculator/


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#62 2015-10-30 13:50:27

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

iceman wrote:

If you enter your number in this calculator,  you can test different bitlength formats..

Yeah, that's how I figured out that the 26 bit would find the right card number. Just didn't make sense that they would give me 37 bits and then only use the last 26...? Oh well.

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#63 2015-11-13 14:21:08

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

Hi, i am very interesting wiegand format 37 bits, could you send me that format please?, i am trying to do it but i do not know how it is.

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#64 2015-11-24 15:43:47

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

marshmellow wrote:

@0xFFFF  are you certain on the simplex parity break down?  I've seen some samples that appear to follow that but others that don't, but I think the ones that don't are imitations.

I do have 3 transponders which have the same site code (0xD9) as these samples, but only one matches the parity scheme:

111011001111101000001110001001000111
011011001101101001111111010011101001
011011001011101000001110001001000101

Looking at the site code and id, these must be the same format, probably the parity calculation is not quite right yet.

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#65 2015-11-25 02:28:28

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

@pieterg, are there numbers printed on the tags?  also do you have confirmation of the format number?

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#66 2015-11-25 10:53:15

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

The printed numbers are:
111011001111101000001110001001000111 (13660451)
011011001101101001111111010011101001 (13892212)
011011001011101000001110001001000101 (13660450)

There is no information about the format, just that the id matches the HID simplex format, and the site code according to that format is equal to that of the samples in this thread.

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#67 2015-11-26 05:26:25

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

how about:
p1 = Odd: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19
p2 = always 1

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#68 2015-11-26 11:41:22

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

How certain are we that the issue level bits aren't also parity bits?
The 13660450,13660451 are from the same batch, but have different issue level bits.
That seems a bit strange to me.

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#69 2015-11-26 16:12:02

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

I agree and I also considered that.  But there isn't enough data or samples to know.  If someone had a reader we could test against we might be able to figure it out.

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#70 2015-12-21 16:39:31

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

Hi, anyone have experience decoding cards with Infinity 37 format? (is a 37 bit format that HID made for TAC/Schneider Continuum access control system).

I have 3 numeration continuous cards and this info:

SC: 12 bits, CN: 19 bits
SC: 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17
CN: 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36
E: ?
O ?

I don´t have any idea about parity mask for this format I've tried several combinations but no one works. Can anyone help me?

This is the cards bit pattern:

1010000011000110000001111011110010011   SC: 396, CN: 31689
0010000011000110000001111011110010100   SC: 396, CN: 31690
1010000011000110000001111011110010110   SC: 396, CN: 31691

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#71 2016-02-10 20:24:05

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

Hello I have a 37 bit HID A10202 format
Can anyone decipher it.

1)    1661-31     1010001100111110100000000000000111111
2)    1661-32     1010001100111110100000000000001000001
3)    1661-33     0010001100111110100000000000001000011
4)    1661-34     1010001100111110100000000000001000100
5)    1661-35     0010001100111110100000000000001000110
6)    1661-36     0010001100111110100000000000001001000
7)    1661-37     1010001100111110100000000000001001010
8)    1661-38     0010001100111110100000000000001001101
9)    1661-39     1010001100111110100000000000001001111
10)   1661-40     0010001100111110100000000000001010001


Thank you,
waariors

Last edited by warriors (2016-02-10 20:24:38)

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#72 2016-02-10 21:01:37

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

Facility Code = 1661
Card Number = 31


P                                                                                P
1 0100 0110 0111 1101 000 0000 0000 0001 1111 1                                                                 
              110 0111 1101   (0x67D = 1661)
                                                                      1 1111  ( 0x1F = 31)
   0100 (0x4

I'm quite sure you can figure this out...

Last edited by iceman (2016-02-10 21:02:20)


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#73 2016-02-10 21:42:48

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

iceman wrote:

Facility Code = 1661
Card Number = 31


P                                                                                P
1 0100 0110 0111 1101 000 0000 0000 0001 1111 1                                                                 
              110 0111 1101   (0x67D = 1661)
                                                                      1 1111  ( 0x1F = 31)
   0100 (0x4

I'm quite sure you can figure this out...


I figured that out the only confusing thing is Parity.
I have tried different combination but none seem to worked.

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#74 2016-03-28 22:37:27

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

edit

You have 37bit H10202

strange ...

37 Bit Wiegand HID H10304 Card Format
34 Bit Wiegand HID N1002 Card Format
35 Bit Wiegand HID Corporate 1000 Card Format
36 Bit Wiegand HID Simplex Card Format
26 Bit Wiegand HID H10301 Card Format
33 Bit Wiegand HID (D10202) Card Format
37 Bit Wiegand HID H10302 Card Format
32 Bit Wiegand HID Check Point Card Format
37 Bit Wiegand HID H10302 ASSA ABLOY IP Lockset Card Format
32 Bit Wiegand Kastle Systems Card Format

Last edited by ntk (2016-03-28 22:48:04)


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#75 2016-12-19 16:42:00

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Re: Wiegand card data formats

has anyone seen an AWID 37 bit, possibly a PCSC P10004 format?
https://helpdesk.rs2tech.com/kb/article … ard-format

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