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#1 2017-10-17 00:53:00
- gentilkiwi
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- Registered: 2017-10-10
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Mifare Classic emulation / sim
Hello 
I'm trying to make some Mifare classic emulation / sim with the latest PM firmware
bootrom: master/v3.0.1-94-g77aecdd-suspect 2017-10-06 13:03:33
os: master/v3.0.1-97-ga008a74-suspect 2017-10-16 15:46:32
LF FPGA image built for 2s30vq100 on 2015/03/06 at 07:38:04
HF FPGA image built for 2s30vq100 on 2017/07/13 at 08:44:13
uC: AT91SAM7S512 Rev B
Embedded Processor: ARM7TDMI
Nonvolatile Program Memory Size: 512K bytes. Used: 199154 bytes (38%). Free: 325134 bytes (62%).
Second Nonvolatile Program Memory Size: None
Internal SRAM Size: 64K bytes
Architecture Identifier: AT91SAM7Sxx Series
Nonvolatile Program Memory Type: Embedded Flash MemoryWhen interacting with the reader on my PC / ACR89, no problem at all
But when interacting with the real access reader:
Start | End | Src | Data (! denotes parity error) | CRC | Annotation |
------------|------------|-----|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-----|--------------------|
0 | 992 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
2420 | 4788 | Tag | 04 00 | |
1462974 | 1463966 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
1465586 | 1467954 | Tag | 04 00 | |
1470398 | 1472862 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
1474418 | 1480242 | Tag | dd cc bb aa a6 | |
1484278 | 1494742 | Rdr | 93 70 dd cc bb aa a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
1496234 | 1499754 | Tag | 08 b6 dd | |
...
2970268 | 2971260 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
2972880 | 2975248 | Tag | 04 00 | |
2977564 | 2980028 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
2981712 | 2987536 | Tag | dd cc bb aa a6 | |
2991572 | 3002036 | Rdr | 93 70 dd cc bb aa a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
3003528 | 3007048 | Tag | 08 b6 dd | |
...The same sequence is repeating... 
I was not able to make a snoop with the same firmware (other problem), but a previous truncated one let me see this:
Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
Rdr | 93 70 dd cc bb aa a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
Rdr | 26 | | REQA
Rdr | 50 00 | | HALT
Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
Rdr | 93 70 dd cc bb aa a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
Rdr | 60 00 f5 7b | ok | AUTH-A(0)
Tag | 07 | |
Tag | 01 | |
Rdr |a8! 53! 72 d3! b2 b0 27! b0! | !crc| ?
Rdr | a6 56 | | ?
Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
Rdr | 93 70 dd cc bb aa a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
Tag |03! | |
Rdr | 60 3c 1a 80 | ok | AUTH-A(60)
Tag | eb 4f 37 00! | |Is the fact that Reader is sending HALT command just after SELECT can make the PM3 to be disappointed?
If yes, any idea to help the simulator to react like a normal/china badge ?
Thank you in advance for ideas
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#2 2017-10-17 07:18:00
- piwi
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- Registered: 2013-06-04
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Re: Mifare Classic emulation / sim
Did you do hf 14a sim or hf mf sim? I am currently working on improving the latter. See https://github.com/Proxmark/proxmark3/pull/419. Please try this and report the results.
gentilkiwi wrote:
I was not able to make a snoop with the same firmware (other problem)
I cannot remember to have seen a reported issue about snoop on github or in this forum. Did you ever mention it?
How good/bad is your antenna? Please run hw tune and post the results.
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#3 2017-10-17 08:22:51
- iceman
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Re: Mifare Classic emulation / sim
Both sniff commands below needs a great antenna (voltage only?) and precision placement with the involved reader antenna and tag antenna. Placements like: [r] - [pm3] - [t] OR [r] - [t] - [pm3]
hf mf Snoop/sniff
hf 14a snoop/sniff
My experience is that its never the same. Trial and error until you get a good sniff output. For me I tend to keep the pm3 antenna very close to the tag antenna, since that is the weakest signal I need to sniff and a bigger distance to the reader.
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#4 2017-10-22 01:29:02
- gentilkiwi
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Re: Mifare Classic emulation / sim
Thank you guys, and sorry for the delay.
Just compiled from tonight with piwi code inside... simulation start, but without any success against this real reader (still OK on the PC one).
Will make more tests with differents placements from iceman's suggestions.
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#5 2017-10-22 09:02:31
- piwi
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Re: Mifare Classic emulation / sim
Please tell us if you are using hf mf sim or hf 14a sim.
For further analysis please provide traces from both sim and snoop against the problematic reader.
And don't edit the output.
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#6 2017-10-22 12:14:06
- gentilkiwi
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- Registered: 2017-10-10
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Re: Mifare Classic emulation / sim
Hey
I do a "hf mf sim" (after a "hf mf eload ..." of my backup)
=> "hf 14a sim" only simulate a UID for a Mifare Classic, no data inside, isn't it ? (I also tested after a "hf mf eload ..." of my data without success)
Basic info:
Prox/RFID mark3 RFID instrument
bootrom: master/v3.0.1-94-g77aecdd-suspect 2017-10-06 13:03:33
os: master/v3.0.1-108-gbb04ef2-suspect 2017-10-21 23:37:35
LF FPGA image built for 2s30vq100 on 2015/03/06 at 07:38:04
HF FPGA image built for 2s30vq100 on 2017/07/13 at 08:44:13
uC: AT91SAM7S512 Rev B
Embedded Processor: ARM7TDMI
Nonvolatile Program Memory Size: 512K bytes. Used: 198858 bytes (38%). Free: 325430 bytes (62%).
Second Nonvolatile Program Memory Size: None
Internal SRAM Size: 64K bytes
Architecture Identifier: AT91SAM7Sxx Series
Nonvolatile Program Memory Type: Embedded Flash Memory
proxmark3> hw tune
Measuring antenna characteristics, please wait......
# LF antenna: 46.61 V @ 125.00 kHz
# LF antenna: 25.57 V @ 134.00 kHz
# LF optimal: 48.12 V @ 126.32 kHz
# HF antenna: 31.94 V @ 13.56 MHz
Displaying LF tuning graph. Divisor 89 is 134khz, 95 is 125khz.Here is the simulation trace against the real reader (from "hf mf sim")
Start | End | Src | Data (! denotes parity error) | CRC | Annotation |
------------|------------|-----|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-----|--------------------|
0 | 992 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
2228 | 4596 | Tag | 04 00 | |
1452606 | 1453598 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
1454898 | 1457266 | Tag | 04 00 | |
1459566 | 1462030 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
1463202 | 1469026 | Tag | xx xx xx xx a6 | |
1473014 | 1483478 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
1484650 | 1488170 | Tag | 08 b6 dd | |
2950362 | 2951354 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
2952590 | 2954958 | Tag | 04 00 | |
2957258 | 2959722 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
2960894 | 2966718 | Tag | xx xx xx xx a6 | |
2970962 | 2981426 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
2982598 | 2986118 | Tag | 08 b6 dd | |
4465720 | 4466712 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
4467948 | 4470316 | Tag | 04 00 | |
4472488 | 4474952 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
4476124 | 4481948 | Tag | xx xx xx xx a6 | |
4485936 | 4496400 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
4497572 | 4501092 | Tag | 08 b6 dd | |
5961014 | 5962006 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
5963242 | 5965610 | Tag | 04 00 | |
5967910 | 5970374 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
5971546 | 5977370 | Tag | xx xx xx xx a6 | |
5981358 | 5991822 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
5992994 | 5996514 | Tag | 08 b6 dd | |And a "hf 14a snoop" trace of 2/3 attemps with real card:
Start | End | Src | Data (! denotes parity error) | CRC | Annotation |
------------|------------|-----|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-----|--------------------|
0 | 992 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
6912 | 9376 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
50048 | 51104 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
52336 | 54672 | Rdr | f9 7f | | ?
56960 | 59424 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
70400 | 80864 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
82160 | 83728 | Rdr | f3 00! | | ?
87168 | 91936 | Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
102656 | 103712 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
187264 | 189664 | Rdr | 50 00 | | HALT
227968 | 228960 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
230272 | 232608 | Rdr | f9 7f | | ?
274576 | 285040 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
286336 | 287904 | Rdr | f3 00! | | ?
352400 | 357104 | Rdr | 60 00 f5 7b | ok | AUTH-A(0)
361488 | 362288 | Rdr |09! | | ?
362768 | 366128 | Rdr | 12 98! 0f! | !crc| ?
367504 | 376816 | Rdr | 5c 04 91! 31 3a 4b 9c! 02! | !crc| ?
501024 | 503424 | Rdr | 3d 1b | | ?
543904 | 544896 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
590112 | 600576 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
601888 | 603456 | Rdr | f3 00! | | ?
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
604576 | 604864 | Rdr |00! | | ?
605088 | 605376 | Rdr |00! | | ?
667168 | 671936 | Rdr | 60 3c 1a 80 | ok | AUTH-A(60)
676512 | 677824 | Rdr |41! | | MAGIC WIPEC
678048 | 678848 | Rdr | 01 | | ?
679328 | 679872 | Rdr | 01 | | ?
680096 | 680960 | Rdr | 3e | | CHK_TEARING(0)
682144 | 691456 | Rdr | 28 b3 bc! a4 34 96 00 a7! | !crc| ?
692768 | 693824 | Rdr | 38 | | ?
694048 | 694976 | Rdr |0f! | | ?
695200 | 695488 | Rdr |00! | | ?
695968 | 697408 | Rdr |80! 00! | | ?
753456 | 758224 | Rdr | eb 18! ee! 66! | !crc| ?
759456 | 760000 | Rdr |00! | | ?
831152 | 835920 | Rdr |0e! f8 f2 05! | !crc| ?
873392 | 874384 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
875696 | 878032 | Rdr | f9 7f | | ?
919472 | 929936 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
931248 | 932816 | Rdr | f3 00! | | ?
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
933936 | 934224 | Rdr |00! | | ?
934448 | 934736 | Rdr |00! | | ?
996288 | 1000992 | Rdr | 60 00 f5 7b | ok | AUTH-A(0)
1005360 | 1006800 | Rdr | 82 00! | | ?
1011392 | 1020768 | Rdr |1f! de! e9! 26! e2! a8 a6! b8! | !crc| ?
1053120 | 1057824 | Rdr |6a! 3a! b5 ae! | !crc| ?
1059120 | 1062992 | Rdr |09! 23! f3 01 | !crc| ?
1134528 | 1139296 | Rdr |88! d1 ab 73 | !crc| ?
1140800 | 1141472 | Rdr | 02 | | ?
1141696 | 1142368 | Rdr | 07 | | ?
1142592 | 1144544 | Rdr | 79 04 | | ?
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
-51636608 | -51636192 | Rdr |00! | | ?
1146432 | 1151328 | Rdr | 33 70 90 c7 00! | !crc| ?
1151552 | 1155168 | Rdr |30! 06! 24! | !crc| READBLOCK(6)
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
1158336 | 1159776 | Rdr |8e! 00! | | ?
1160256 | 1161376 | Rdr |82! | | ?
2777392 | 2778384 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
2779696 | 2782032 | Rdr | f9 7f | | ?
2784320 | 2786784 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
2788272 | 2790096 | Rdr | 19 03! | | ?
2790320 | 2790736 | Rdr |00! | | ?
2790960 | 2793424 | Rdr | fe 88! | | ?
-51636608 | -51634784 | Rdr | cc 03! | | ?
2814784 | 2819552 | Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
2830272 | 2831328 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
4351024 | 4352016 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
4353312 | 4355648 | Rdr | f9 7f | | ?
4357808 | 4360272 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
4371376 | 4381840 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
4388272 | 4393040 | Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
4403760 | 4404816 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
5912864 | 5913856 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
5919776 | 5922240 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
5933216 | 5943680 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
5950240 | 5955008 | Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
5965728 | 5966784 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
7488912 | 7489904 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
7495824 | 7498288 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
7499792 | 7501616 | Rdr | 19 03! | | ?
7501840 | 7502256 | Rdr |00! | | ?
7509264 | 7519728 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
7524240 | 7524528 | Rdr |00! | | ?
7526288 | 7531056 | Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
7541776 | 7542832 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
9050752 | 9051744 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
9057792 | 9060256 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
9061760 | 9063584 | Rdr | 19 03! | | ?
9063808 | 9064224 | Rdr |00! | | ?
9064448 | 9066912 | Rdr | fe 88! | | ?
9071232 | 9081696 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
9085696 | 9085984 | Rdr |00! | | ?
9086208 | 9086496 | Rdr |00! | | ?
9088256 | 9093024 | Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
9103744 | 9104800 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
10615024 | 10616016 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
10621936 | 10624400 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
10625904 | 10627728 | Rdr | 19 03! | | ?
10635632 | 10646096 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
10650096 | 10650384 | Rdr |00! | | ?
10650608 | 10650896 | Rdr |00! | | ?
10652400 | 10657168 | Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
10667888 | 10668944 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
12188384 | 12189376 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
12195296 | 12197760 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
12199264 | 12201088 | Rdr | 19 03! | | ?
12201312 | 12201728 | Rdr |00! | | ?
12201952 | 12204416 | Rdr | fe 88! | | ?
-51636608 | -51625888 | Rdr | 4c c3 48! 8e de! 80! 99! cf 90 03! | !crc| ?
12225760 | 12230528 | Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
12241248 | 12242304 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
13751376 | 13752368 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
13758288 | 13760752 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
13762256 | 13764080 | Rdr | 19 03! | | ?
13764304 | 13764720 | Rdr |00! | | ?
13764944 | 13767408 | Rdr | fe 88! | | ?
-51636608 | -51625888 | Rdr | 4c c3 48! 8e de! 80! 99! cf 90 03! | !crc| ?
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
13786192 | 13786480 | Rdr |00! | | ?
13786704 | 13786992 | Rdr |00! | | ?
13788752 | 13793520 | Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
13804368 | 13805424 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
15313088 | 15314080 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
15315392 | 15317728 | Rdr | f9 7f | | ?
68638320 | 68639312 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
68640624 | 68642960 | Rdr | f9 7f | | ?
70116960 | 70117952 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
70119264 | 70121600 | Rdr | f9 7f | | ?
70124000 | 70126464 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
70127968 | 70129792 | Rdr | 19 03! | | ?
70130016 | 70130432 | Rdr |00! | | ?
70130656 | 70133120 | Rdr | fe 88! | | ?
-51636608 | -51625888 | Rdr | 4c c3 48! 8e de! 80! 99! cf 90 03! | !crc| ?
70149216 | 70150784 | Rdr | f3 00! | | ?
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
70151904 | 70152192 | Rdr |00! | | ?
70152416 | 70152704 | Rdr |00! | | ?
70154464 | 70159232 | Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
70170080 | 70171136 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
70256624 | 70259024 | Rdr | 50 00 | | HALT
70299376 | 70300368 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
70301680 | 70304016 | Rdr | f9 7f | | ?
70346224 | 70356688 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
70358000 | 70359568 | Rdr | f3 00! | | ?
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
70360688 | 70360976 | Rdr |00! | | ?
70361200 | 70361488 | Rdr |00! | | ?
70424576 | 70429280 | Rdr | 60 00 f5 7b | ok | AUTH-A(0)
70433648 | 70433936 | Rdr |00! | | ?
-51636608 | -51635680 | Rdr | 04 | | ?
70435680 | 70435968 | Rdr |00! | | ?
70439424 | 70448736 | Rdr | b4 13 ba 9b 71! 8b! 66! cf | !crc| ?
70577536 | 70579936 | Rdr | 90 0c | | ?
70620032 | 70621024 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
70622336 | 70624672 | Rdr | f9 7f | | ?
70666896 | 70677360 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
70678656 | 70680224 | Rdr | f3 00! | | ?
70746256 | 70751024 | Rdr | 60 3c 1a 80 | ok | AUTH-A(60)
-51636608 | -51635680 | Rdr | 1c | | ?
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
70757264 | 70759216 | Rdr | 61 0c! | | AUTH-B(12)
70759440 | 70760048 | Rdr | 08 | | ?
70761360 | 70770672 | Rdr | 9b 07! f0! f2! a0! 65 15 95 | !crc| ?
70771984 | 70772528 | Rdr | 02 | | ?
-51636608 | -51635936 | Rdr |00! | | ?
70773776 | 70774320 | Rdr | 01 | | ?
70774544 | 70776624 | Rdr | ff 13 | | ?
70831760 | 70836528 | Rdr | e4 96! 86 e8! | !crc| ?
-51636608 | -51635424 | Rdr | 04 | | ?
-51636608 | -51635296 | Rdr |00! | | ?
70841488 | 70842032 | Rdr |03! | | ?
70842256 | 70843056 | Rdr | 07 | | ?
-51636608 | -51635808 | Rdr |0c! | | ?
70844688 | 70845104 | Rdr |00! | | ?
-51636608 | -51634912 | Rdr | 00 00! | | ?
70847632 | 70848944 | Rdr |e4! | | ?
70849424 | 70849712 | Rdr |00! | | ?
70849936 | 70850608 | Rdr | 07 | | ?
70850832 | 70851376 | Rdr |00! | | ?
70851600 | 70852912 | Rdr | 38 | | ?
70853392 | 70855856 | Rdr | 67 46 | | ?
70856080 | 70856752 | Rdr | 07 | | ?
70857488 | 70858160 | Rdr |03! | | ?
70858384 | 70858608 | Rdr | 01 | | ?
70909728 | 70914496 | Rdr | eb d6 5c! eb! | !crc| ?
70951456 | 70952448 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
70953744 | 70956080 | Rdr | f9 7f | | ?
70997920 | 71008384 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
71074592 | 71079296 | Rdr | 60 00 f5 7b | ok | AUTH-A(0)
71083936 | 71085888 | Rdr | 1e 01 | | ?
71086112 | 71086400 | Rdr |00! | | ?
71086624 | 71087424 | Rdr |09! | | ?
71087648 | 71088320 | Rdr | 02 | | ?
71089696 | 71099008 | Rdr |a9! f6 47 5e 56 10! c6 1b | !crc| ?
71100320 | 71101760 | Rdr | 23 00! | | ?
71101984 | 71104960 | Rdr | e4 13 03! | !crc| ?
71131552 | 71136256 | Rdr | 32 44 78! 98! | !crc| ?
71137824 | 71140160 | Rdr | 99 11! | | ?
71140384 | 71141440 | Rdr |03! | | ?
71141664 | 71142336 | Rdr | 02 | | ?
71142560 | 71142976 | Rdr |00! | | ?
71143456 | 71146688 | Rdr | c9 09! 12! | !crc| ?
71147168 | 71147584 | Rdr |00! | | ?
71147808 | 71148352 | Rdr |00! | | ?
71148576 | 71151040 | Rdr |c3! 38 | | ?
71151264 | 71151936 | Rdr |06! | | ?
71152416 | 71152960 | Rdr | 02 | | ?
71153184 | 71154112 | Rdr | 13 | | ?
71154336 | 71154880 | Rdr | 01 | | ?
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
71155744 | 71156416 | Rdr | 01 | | ?
71156640 | 71157952 | Rdr |e4! | | ?
71158176 | 71158400 | Rdr | 01 | | ?
71212848 | 71217552 | Rdr | 7d ac 1f 73! | !crc| ?
71218832 | 71220784 | Rdr | f2 0e | | ?
72773152 | 72774144 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
72775440 | 72777776 | Rdr | f9 7f | | ?
72780064 | 72782528 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
72784016 | 72785840 | Rdr | 19 03! | | ?
72786064 | 72786480 | Rdr |00! | | ?
72793632 | 72804096 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
72805376 | 72806944 | Rdr | f3 00! | | ?
72810400 | 72815168 | Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
72825888 | 72826944 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
74336912 | 74337904 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
74339184 | 74341520 | Rdr | f9 7f | | ?
74343824 | 74346288 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
74357392 | 74367856 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
74369152 | 74370720 | Rdr | f3 00! | | ?
74374160 | 74378928 | Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
74389648 | 74390704 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
75900032 | 75901024 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
75902320 | 75904656 | Rdr | f9 7f | | ?
75906944 | 75909408 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
75910896 | 75912720 | Rdr | 19 03! | | ?
75912944 | 75913360 | Rdr |00! | | ?
75913584 | 75916048 | Rdr | fe 88! | | ?
75920384 | 75930848 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
75932144 | 75933712 | Rdr | f3 00! | | ?
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
75934832 | 75935120 | Rdr |00! | | ?
75935344 | 75935632 | Rdr |00! | | ?
75937408 | 75942176 | Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
75953024 | 75954080 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
77474160 | 77475152 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
77476448 | 77478784 | Rdr | f9 7f | | ?
77481072 | 77483536 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
77494640 | 77505104 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
77506384 | 77507952 | Rdr | f3 00! | | ?
77511536 | 77516304 | Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
77527024 | 77528080 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
79045984 | 79046976 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
79052768 | 79055232 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
79066336 | 79076800 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
79083232 | 79088000 | Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
79098720 | 79099776 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
80620240 | 80621232 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
80627152 | 80629616 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
80633168 | 80633584 | Rdr |00! | | ?
80633808 | 80636272 | Rdr | fe 88! | | ?
80640720 | 80651184 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
80657616 | 80662384 | Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
80673104 | 80674160 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
82183232 | 82184224 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
82190144 | 82192608 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
82194112 | 82195936 | Rdr | 19 03! | | ?
82196160 | 82196576 | Rdr |00! | | ?
82196800 | 82199264 | Rdr | fe 88! | | ?
82203584 | 82214048 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
82218560 | 82218848 | Rdr |00! | | ?
82220608 | 82225376 | Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
82236096 | 82237152 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
156168032 | 156169024 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
156170320 | 156172656 | Rdr | f9 7f | | ?
157629888 | 157630880 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
157632192 | 157634528 | Rdr | f9 7f | | ?
157636800 | 157639264 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
157640768 | 157642592 | Rdr | 19 03! | | ?
157642816 | 157643232 | Rdr |00! | | ?
157643456 | 157645920 | Rdr | fe 88! | | ?
-51636608 | -51625888 | Rdr | 4c c3 48! 8e de! 80! 99! cf 90 03! | !crc| ?
157662016 | 157663584 | Rdr | f3 00! | | ?
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
157664704 | 157664992 | Rdr |00! | | ?
157665216 | 157665504 | Rdr |00! | | ?
157667264 | 157672032 | Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
157682752 | 157683808 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
157764560 | 157766960 | Rdr | 50 00 | | HALT
157805392 | 157806384 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
157807696 | 157810032 | Rdr | f9 7f | | ?
157852624 | 157863088 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
157864400 | 157865968 | Rdr | f3 00! | | ?
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
157867088 | 157867376 | Rdr |00! | | ?
157867600 | 157867888 | Rdr |00! | | ?
157930208 | 157934912 | Rdr | 60 00 f5 7b | ok | AUTH-A(0)
157939536 | 157940848 | Rdr | ce | | ?
157941328 | 157941744 | Rdr |00! | | ?
157941952 | 157942752 | Rdr |03! | | ?
157945184 | 157954496 | Rdr |34! cc 30! 61 8e 88 37 b6! | !crc| ?
158078688 | 158081152 | Rdr |e5! fc! | | ?
158120672 | 158121664 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
158122976 | 158125312 | Rdr | f9 7f | | ?
158167152 | 158177616 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
158178912 | 158180480 | Rdr | f3 00! | | ?
158243824 | 158248592 | Rdr | 60 3c 1a 80 | ok | AUTH-A(60)
158253168 | 158254864 | Rdr |ff! 02 | | ?
158255344 | 158257616 | Rdr | 20 93! | | ?
158258928 | 158268304 | Rdr |fc! 40! df 38! d6 97 b8 1e! | !crc| ?
158269552 | 158271376 | Rdr | 83 06! | | ?
158271600 | 158272016 | Rdr | 01 | | ?
158272240 | 158274192 | Rdr | c8 04 | | ?
158330224 | 158334992 | Rdr |1a! 78! 1c 4e! | !crc| AUTH
-51636608 | -51636192 | Rdr |00! | | ?
158337008 | 158338704 | Rdr | 91 00! | | ?
158338928 | 158339472 | Rdr | 02 | | ?
158340208 | 158341136 | Rdr |06! | | ?
158341360 | 158344464 | Rdr | c1 44! 08 | !crc| DEC(68)
158344944 | 158345744 | Rdr |06! | | ?
158345968 | 158346512 | Rdr |00! | | ?
158346736 | 158347024 | Rdr |00! | | ?
158347504 | 158348816 | Rdr |c9! | | ?
158349040 | 158351632 | Rdr | c1 c2 00! | !crc| DEC(194)
158351856 | 158352144 | Rdr |00! | | ?
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
158353520 | 158354448 | Rdr | 01 | | ?
158354672 | 158355088 | Rdr |00! | | ?
158355312 | 158355856 | Rdr | 01 | | ?
158356080 | 158356752 | Rdr | 04 | | ?
158408448 | 158413216 | Rdr | 20 67! cb! 6e | !crc| ?
158450048 | 158451040 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
158452352 | 158454688 | Rdr | f9 7f | | ?
158496128 | 158506592 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
158507904 | 158509472 | Rdr | f3 00! | | ?
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
158510592 | 158510880 | Rdr |00! | | ?
158511104 | 158511392 | Rdr |00! | | ?
158573840 | 158578544 | Rdr | 60 00 f5 7b | ok | AUTH-A(0)
158582912 | 158584352 | Rdr |19! 00! | | ?
158584576 | 158584864 | Rdr |00! | | ?
158585088 | 158587616 | Rdr | f3 27! 01 | !crc| ?
158588944 | 158598256 | Rdr | ab 8d! dc ac! 04! ae! ed! 68! | !crc| ?
158630800 | 158635504 | Rdr | f3 85! c6 f7! | !crc| ?
158636800 | 158637856 | Rdr |11! | | ?
158712336 | 158717104 | Rdr |38! 12! 12 1a | !crc| ?
158718608 | 158719408 | Rdr |00! | | ?
158719632 | 158720432 | Rdr | 04 | | ?
158720656 | 158722864 | Rdr |27! 39! | | ?
158723088 | 158723376 | Rdr |00! | | ?
158723600 | 158724016 | Rdr |00! | | ?
158724240 | 158725424 | Rdr | 4f | | ?
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
158726800 | 158727088 | Rdr |00! | | ?
158727312 | 158729904 | Rdr | 87 88! 00! | !crc| ?
158730128 | 158732976 | Rdr | 84 20! 03! | !crc| ?
-51636608 | -51635424 | Rdr |18! | | ?
158734736 | 158735280 | Rdr | 01 | | ?
158735504 | 158736432 | Rdr |06! | | ?
-51636608 | -51636192 | Rdr |00! | | ?
158737680 | 158738096 | Rdr | 01 | | ?
158738320 | 158739120 | Rdr | 0e | | ?
160354176 | 160355168 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
160356480 | 160358816 | Rdr | f9 7f | | ?
160360960 | 160363424 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
160364928 | 160366752 | Rdr | 19 03! | | ?
160366976 | 160367392 | Rdr |00! | | ?
160367616 | 160370080 | Rdr | fe 88! | | ?
-51636608 | -51625888 | Rdr | 4c c3 48! 8e de! 80! 99! cf 90 03! | !crc| ?
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
160388864 | 160389152 | Rdr |00! | | ?
160389376 | 160389664 | Rdr |00! | | ?
160391168 | 160395936 | Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
160406656 | 160407712 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
161940464 | 161941456 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
161942768 | 161945104 | Rdr | f9 7f | | ?
161947376 | 161949840 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
161954032 | 161956496 | Rdr | fe 88! | | ?
-51636608 | -51625888 | Rdr | 4c c3 48! 8e de! 80! 99! cf 90 03! | !crc| ?
161972720 | 161974288 | Rdr | f3 00! | | ?
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
161975408 | 161975696 | Rdr |00! | | ?
161975920 | 161976208 | Rdr |00! | | ?
161977712 | 161982480 | Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
161993328 | 161994384 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
163513952 | 163514944 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
163520864 | 163523328 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
163534304 | 163544768 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
163548768 | 163549056 | Rdr |00! | | ?
163549280 | 163549568 | Rdr |00! | | ?
163551328 | 163556096 | Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
163566816 | 163567872 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
165088208 | 165089200 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
165095120 | 165097584 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
165099088 | 165100912 | Rdr | 19 03! | | ?
165101136 | 165101552 | Rdr |00! | | ?
165101776 | 165104240 | Rdr | fe 88! | | ?
165108560 | 165119024 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
165123024 | 165123312 | Rdr |00! | | ?
165123536 | 165123824 | Rdr |00! | | ?
165125584 | 165130352 | Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
165141072 | 165142128 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
166651200 | 166652192 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
166658112 | 166660576 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
166662080 | 166663904 | Rdr | 19 03! | | ?
166664128 | 166664544 | Rdr |00! | | ?
166671680 | 166682144 | Rdr | 93 70 xx xx xx xx a6 73 e4 | ok | SELECT_UID
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
166686144 | 166686432 | Rdr |00! | | ?
166686656 | 166686944 | Rdr |00! | | ?
166688576 | 166693344 | Rdr | 50 00 57 cd | ok | HALT
166704064 | 166705120 | Rdr | 26 | | REQA
168213168 | 168214160 | Rdr | 52 | | WUPA
168215472 | 168217808 | Rdr | f9 7f | | ?
168220080 | 168222544 | Rdr | 93 20 | | ANTICOLL
168224048 | 168225872 | Rdr | 19 03! | | ?
168226096 | 168226512 | Rdr |00! | | ?
168226736 | 168229200 | Rdr | fe 88! | | ?
-51636608 | -51625888 | Rdr | 4c c3 48! 8e de! 80! 99! cf 90 03! | !crc| ?
168245296 | 168246864 | Rdr | f3 00! | | ?
-51636608 | -51636320 | Rdr |00! | | ?
168247984 | 168248272 | Rdr |00! | | ?
168248496 | 168249936 | Rdr | 30 00! | | READBLOCK(0)"hf mf sniff" does not seems to record any data... maybe I don't use it in the good way :s
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#7 2017-10-23 07:45:07
- piwi
- Contributor
- Registered: 2013-06-04
- Posts: 704
Re: Mifare Classic emulation / sim
Your hf 14a snoop still doesn't show tag answers. This is probably the reason for hf mf sniff showing nothing useful. Still room for improvement with your antenna.
However I can see from your snoop trace that the time between the tag's answer and the next reader command is quite short. Probably too short for the simulator. Looks like we need to speed up the simulation even more...
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#8 2017-10-29 23:04:54
- gentilkiwi
- Contributor
- Registered: 2017-10-10
- Posts: 27
Re: Mifare Classic emulation / sim
Ok guys, I made other tests with the FOB and snoop / sniff.
Both are now working
The distance between the card/fob and the reader is VERY important.
As a FOB can be smaller than the antenna, it was very important to let a small distance between reader and FOB 
.
But as I've presented in first message, it was "another problem". Any idea on the "too slow" simulation?
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